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Roman Recipe

Postby Anonymous on Sun Jan 30, 2005 3:28 am

Salvete,

Well I'll admit i have a passion for the culinary arts, and have dabbled in Roman cuisine a bit. hope people find this appealing:

Ham in Pastry:
1 - 1.5 kg boned ham
225 g dried figs
3 bay leaves
3 tbsp honey
3 1/2 cups flour
olive oil (sufficient for moist pastry)
1 Tbsp salt

Boil the ham in water containing the dried figs and bay leaves. Whin it is done (approximately 2 hours cooking time), remove the skin, score the ham in a crosshatched pattern, and spread it with honey.

Make a sheet of pastry from the flour oil and salt. Wrap the ham in it, and bake oven at 400F for about 30 min. when pastry is cooked, removed form the oven and serve.

serves 4

recipee courtessy of Apicius

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Postby Quintus Pomponius Atticus on Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:29 am

Salve Marce Antoni,

It sounds quite delicious. I think I'll give it a try someday.

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Postby Cleopatra Aelia on Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:00 pm

Salvete Amici,

I, too have a recipe book based on the recipes by Apicius which two authors published who had tried out all the recipes. I have cooked some already and esp. liked the grilled little lobsters (locusta elixa cum cuminator) which I put on a barbecue. They are covrered with a delicious sauce so they don't dry out on the barbecue. This sauce of course contains of course garum.
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Postby Anonymous on Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:36 pm

Cleopatra Aelia wrote: garum.

Sorry I don't know, but: what's that?
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Postby Quintus Pomponius Atticus on Sun Jan 30, 2005 11:09 pm

Salve Lucia,

Garum is a condiment or sauce widely used by the ancient Greeks and Romans.

Take some small fish, the intestines of some larger fish, maybe some oysters, salt them, maybe add some vinegar, pepper and/or other spices. Then set this in the sun for several days. At this point it is called liquimen. As this appetizing mass of stuff would ferment and putrefy it oozed a liquid. This liquid is garum. Used as a seasoning in cooking and also as a table condiment. There are several modern versions of this: Pissalat from Nice and nuoc-mam in Vietnam are two of them.

Source : http://www.foodreference.com/html/fgarum.html

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Postby Gnaeus Dionysius Draco on Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:33 pm

Salve Attice,

Pissalat doesn't sound tasty, and I have always found the garum concept a gross one, too. :?

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Postby Quintus Pomponius Atticus on Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:53 pm

Salve Gnæ,

Gnæus Dionysius Draco wrote:Salve Attice,

Pissalat doesn't sound tasty, and I have always found the garum concept a gross one, too. :?

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There's no garum in Marcus' ham recipe, if I read it well. Nevertheless, I would want to try garum someday. It sounds disgusting, surely, but who says it also tastes disgusting ? Compare it to the many 'delicious' things in our frie-stalls (is that correct English for 'frietkraam' ? ;-)) which would utterly disgust the eater if he knew what they're made of.

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Postby Q. C. Locatus Barbatus on Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:46 pm

Yes, that's true atticus! Fortunately they have wurst here and not those filthy snacks :wink:
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That reminds me...

Postby Aldus Marius on Tue Feb 01, 2005 6:25 am

Salvete amici,

Well, you might have heard the saying: "With policy and sausage, the less you know about what goes into it, the easier it is to swallow."

And that is probably the sum total of Marius' potential contribution to any cooking topic. I'll go away now...! >({|;-)
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Postby Anonymous on Thu Feb 03, 2005 12:46 am

Salve Duelliane,

Ya, I've made this, and it's pretty darn good. I just got some fig trees at my house, so i intend to make it again with fresh ones this summer. :D

i'm excited


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Postby Cleopatra Aelia on Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:36 pm

Savle Draco,

Gnæus Dionysius Draco wrote:I have always found the garum concept a gross one, too. :?



The recipe book I use suggests to use Vietnamese fish sauce instead of making garum yourself. I used the fish sauce on various recipes from that book and it's really delicious with that. And your kitchen doesn't stink like fish if you don't need to prepare the garum yourself.
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