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Postby Valerius Claudius Iohanes on Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:40 am

Salvete, sodales -

Another plea for advice from my fellow sodales:

I have been trying for a while to find a sculpture or image of Saturnus, a respectable but affordable one. I've been looking mostly on-line, and I have found figurines of Aphrodite, Venus, Diana, Artemis, Hera, Apollo, Volcanus, et ceteri - but Saturnus appears to be singularly unpopular.

Since Saturnalia is practically upon us, I wondered if any others have had better luck finding, creating, comissioning images or figures of Saturn, and if so, where and how and so on. Any help would be appreciated.

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Postby Q Valerius on Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:50 am

Before Hellinization, Saturnus, all deities, in fact, didn't have busts. I do not ever recall seeing a bust or sculpture of any kind of Saturnus. He, with numerous other gods, weren't popular sculpture items, or at least Classicists never identified any with them. I can't even recall any wall paintings of Saturnus.
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Postby Primus Aurelius Timavus on Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:22 pm

I found one (original antiquity) for sale, but it reflects Punic influence and looks like it would be pricy

http://www.barakatgallery.com/store/ind ... /20937.htm

Here are a couple of images of statues of Saturnus

http://robjo.wordpress.com/2007/05/ (look at bottom of page. Includes discussion of commissioning a copy)

http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/cgod ... Cronos.htm

There is a nice engraving here

http://www.pascua.de/planetenkinder/sr/ ... statue.htm

Hope one of these helps you.

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Postby Q Valerius on Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:38 pm

You gave me a fright, Timave! I was certain that Saturnus had lacked sculptures. Cronus, on the other hand, was depicted somewhat in Greece. The first you rightly mentioned Punic influence, since the God is actually Baal-Saturn, i.e. Baal who was recognized by the Romans as being equivalent to Saturn. That certainly is Roman style, though. I'm not an expert, so I'll reserve my opinions on the others.
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Saturnus and his aliases

Postby Valerius Claudius Iohanes on Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:05 am

Salvete, magistri -

Et gratias tibi, Timave, ago. Yes, I doubt the Saturn-Baal statue is within my budget! But it's a beautiful image: cape, hood, but instead of a sickle, he's holding a - discus? Is that a sheaf of grain behind and to the side? I was really surprised that Saturn was left out - my guess is that agricultural gods are not as spammy as a lot of the others.... 8^)

All I need now is a sculptor who can work (for cheap!) from a few depictions. I appreciate the links.

Quinte Valerii - was there a religious reason that Saturn was not depicted in statuary? You said,

I was certain that Saturnus had lacked sculptures.


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Postby Primus Aurelius Timavus on Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:39 am

I don't think it's a discus. Could it be a vessel?
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That round thing

Postby Aldus Marius on Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:31 am

...Or a nice millstone, or a wheel...

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