Pelagian Christians
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:33 pm
Salvete Omnes,
Actually Marius should've opened a thread like that but since we started talking about this topic in two other threads I thought it might be helpfull to start an extra thread.
I have to admit that I'd never heard about this Christian belief before but that's actually the nice thing about this forum that you still keep learning new stuff. And I'd appreciate it very much if Marius would tell us more about it in this thread if he'd like to.
I'm posting here now is that I remembered having heard something about Pelagius when watching the movie "King Arthur" and this came back to my memory when reading about Pelagian Christians in the thread General -> Where IS Everybody? So I checked out the information I have in the press information of that movie where it says:
In the time where the movie's set the two most known opponents were Augustinus of Hippo and Pelagius. Those two men represented the exact opposits fo Christian lives. Augustinus on the one side taught that all human beings are inferior to the will of God. Pelagius who refered to the classical philosophy said that all human beings should have the freedom to choose their own style of life and that life should follows the natural laws of honor and virtue. After a public debate in which both men fought bitterly for their ideas the ecclesiastical court declared the ideas of Pelagius as heresy and banned him from Rome. At the fringe of the Roman Empire, far away from the influence of the church, Britannia was was already thought to be the breeding-ground for heretic ideas, and since Pelagius was a Briton and lived there for some time, the British Christians were suspected to give shelter to the followers of Pelagius, which they surely did. The authorities sent the orthodox bishop Germanus of Aachen in Gallia to stop the heresy in Brittania. He wasn't welcomed friendly and soon thereafter left again. In this time the Pelagianism already had been strengthened in Britannia. Of Pelagius' fate is only known that he most likely got murdered by his enemies, to reduce him to silence.
From historical tradition we know nothing about Arthur's belief, except that we was most probably Christian. The fact that he is shown in the movie as a follower of Pelagius' teachings fits his charackter. As for someone who fights for the indiviual freedom as well as for the freedom of the nation this would have been a logical consequence.
Your comments will be highly appreciated.
Actually Marius should've opened a thread like that but since we started talking about this topic in two other threads I thought it might be helpfull to start an extra thread.
I have to admit that I'd never heard about this Christian belief before but that's actually the nice thing about this forum that you still keep learning new stuff. And I'd appreciate it very much if Marius would tell us more about it in this thread if he'd like to.
I'm posting here now is that I remembered having heard something about Pelagius when watching the movie "King Arthur" and this came back to my memory when reading about Pelagian Christians in the thread General -> Where IS Everybody? So I checked out the information I have in the press information of that movie where it says:
In the time where the movie's set the two most known opponents were Augustinus of Hippo and Pelagius. Those two men represented the exact opposits fo Christian lives. Augustinus on the one side taught that all human beings are inferior to the will of God. Pelagius who refered to the classical philosophy said that all human beings should have the freedom to choose their own style of life and that life should follows the natural laws of honor and virtue. After a public debate in which both men fought bitterly for their ideas the ecclesiastical court declared the ideas of Pelagius as heresy and banned him from Rome. At the fringe of the Roman Empire, far away from the influence of the church, Britannia was was already thought to be the breeding-ground for heretic ideas, and since Pelagius was a Briton and lived there for some time, the British Christians were suspected to give shelter to the followers of Pelagius, which they surely did. The authorities sent the orthodox bishop Germanus of Aachen in Gallia to stop the heresy in Brittania. He wasn't welcomed friendly and soon thereafter left again. In this time the Pelagianism already had been strengthened in Britannia. Of Pelagius' fate is only known that he most likely got murdered by his enemies, to reduce him to silence.
From historical tradition we know nothing about Arthur's belief, except that we was most probably Christian. The fact that he is shown in the movie as a follower of Pelagius' teachings fits his charackter. As for someone who fights for the indiviual freedom as well as for the freedom of the nation this would have been a logical consequence.
Your comments will be highly appreciated.