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M Moravi Horati Piscine wrote:One thing I like about the ancient systems is that unlike modern philosophy they understood that people held different positions in societyand individuals did change as they matured. There are no absolutes.
M Moravi Horati Piscine wrote: Ethics is about choice between relative goods, and what choices are presented to a child, or young adult are different from what an older person faces. Also the individual's responsibilities change with age. Modern society seems to focus too greatly on what is to be attained by age 30. It neglects instructing children on what they should attain at their stage of life. It neglects to prepare people for their later lives. The focus on 'making it' is rarely seen today as a progressive process that happens over a life-time, with each stage of life having different goals to achieve and different responsibilities. This does not accord the individual with society since he or she will always be trying to attain something one cannot be. That only leads to the individual's disaffection with society as a whole, with others around him, and with himself. A woman at 35 looks around and sees she hasn't the relationship she had hoped for as a child, does not have the career or social position or family she was taught to expect, or the figure of a child anymore, and then becomes concerned on what she should have done in the past rather than face her future life. The same occurs with men, and by age 40 they chase after what they thought should have been their youth rather than look ahead to the life they still need to live. That does not set them up well for making good ethical choices or for benefitting society. It was quite different in ancient society where people were allotted according to their age group and what they were to achieve was determined according to position and age. It made an entirely different set of parameters in which to make ethical choices.
Marcus Scribonius Curio wrote:
Piscine, I must disagree: ethics is not based on how we view the world, but on how we view people, society and the actions of both. Ethics is both a luxury of success and a human invention. Animals follow certain instinctive behavioural commands but wouldn't make moral decisions as we know them. In this way, ethics may have something to do with psychological imperatives, but there is no necessity to consider metaphysical realities along with ethical realities.
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