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Postby Q. C. Locatus Barbatus on Fri Nov 08, 2002 10:20 pm

Salvete omnes,


A small question (as usual :wink: ): Which philosophy do you absolutely reject and why?

I feel some interesting discussions coming :lol: ,



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Postby Gnaeus Dionysius Draco on Sat Nov 09, 2002 1:16 pm

Hmm... tough question.

I think most philosophers have said things which I can agree with. I really can't think of any philosopher who's said nothing I can't agree with. But speaking mildly, I disagree with most of the nature philosophers and Pythagoras on scientific basis, and disagree with Plato on his political views which I think are both impractical and totalitarian.

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Postby Anonymous on Sun Nov 10, 2002 6:01 pm

I reject any philosophy that posits a hostile dichotomy between body and soul; that labels the body, matter and this earthly life as "fallen" or degenerate; that construes the point of life as a means of freeing the noble soul from the evil body, usually by means of some soteriological agent.

I aslo reject any philosophy that is essentially pacifist in conception.

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Postby Curio Agelastus on Sun Nov 10, 2002 10:30 pm

Salvete,

I suppose the only philosohical concepts that I reject out of hand are those that are often formulated by new agers. But I suppose they might fall under religious ideas rather than philosophical ideas. Very well, one that I really disagree with is (Only half-joking)

"We can make a difference."

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Postby Q. C. Locatus Barbatus on Mon Nov 11, 2002 12:05 pm

Valete,


Let me answer my own question.

I've seen I'm evolving. Things that I rejected some time ago now seem acceptable to me; but here are some things I still don't believe.

1. Philosphies that claim they can prove there is/are (a) god(s). I hate it when they try to prove something without facts. e.g. I enraged myself when reading Sartre.
2. Philosophies claiming a kind of destiny. We all are destined to do this or that. Disgusting! They give Humans 0% of free will
3. Philosophies that say that all what we do is our personal, free will. Not right either. This philosophies encourage people to become selfish and self-centered.
(this is becoming a quite long list :), but who knows me will not be surprised :wink: )
4. Pholosophies that encourage the people to believe in the duality of body and soul; often with a very negative view on the earth. It is right here, right now we live, and nothing on this planet is bad; we can make it worse although.
5. Philosophies that claim that people are good and peaceful. History has proven they ain't.

I believe that you only can be human when you don't behave as a human anymore, i.e. solidarity. And it is easier to fight than to talk, what is proven every day, and the last months more than ever.


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Postby Aulus Dionysius Mencius on Fri Nov 22, 2002 12:40 am

Salvete

There is one philosopher I can't stand, really: Wittgenstein.

I must admit that he must have been of importance, especially in linguistics, but to me, his writings are a puzlle... there is no system or thesis to be found, it seems like a collection of loose thoughts.

A philosopher I admire very much, is Immanuel Kant. His perceptions about the origin of knowledge,and above all, the way we think impressed me very much. An interesting idea is the following : the acceptance of individual freedom, which was conditio sine qua non, if one considers that he is following a philosophy he could just as well not follow...

Off course I should also mention David Hume, for Kant's philosophy was a reaction on Hume...

There are others, like Mencius and Confucius... but I will restrain my ramblings for now :wink:
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Postby Gnaeus Dionysius Draco on Fri Nov 22, 2002 3:55 pm

I don't especially like Kant. His ideas on function and perception are very insightful, but his concept of morality ("because we have to") smacks of dogmatism.

I *do* like Wittgenstein. It's not because he didn't invent a system according to the old tradition, that it makes him a bad philosopher...

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